*obviously hadnt noticed at the point of posting this that the admin had posted on the open forum thread dedicated to this*
i am now addressing what 'matt' (an admin) said about censorship here on DC
Dear D-C Forum Users,
How did I miss this gem of a thread?! =)
To address the issue of "censorship" as it pertains to the users of this forum, allow me to summarize a couple of things.
Here at D-C we strive to provide and promote an environment of education, acceptance, class and safety for our users. The last thing we wish to do is to "oppress", "control" or otherwise subjugate you, the users, because without you, the users, this website would be worthless.
In the same vein, generally speaking, subject matter such as profanity, sexual innuendo, drug paraphernalia, and a whole host of things I couldn't even possibly think of right now are NOT conducive to this target environment. It is for this reason that we have such strict (by some standards) censorship policies.
I am trying to avoid using clichés like "What would your mother think?" so let me close with a reminder.
Just because you are comfortable with a certain subject or style of language does not mean everyone will be. It is for that reason that we are vigilant, we want no one to feel unwelcome just because someone felt the need to use a four-letter word, rather than being a bit more creative in their writing.
Besides, you should practice not talking like that anyway, one day when you have a real job your boss might not take too kindly to you dropping the F-Bomb in the hallway!
i understand your point about this being an educational site, but lets really be honest here, how often do we post things in threads outside of the open forum?
and how often does what we DO post outside of the open forum contain profanity?
i guess thats not as big of a point though, as is this really needing to be and educational site.
but education DOES NOT restrict profanity.
ESPECIALLY in debate.
go watch the CEDAs
or really any college tournemant.
i will stake a bet that you will hear at least 100 swear words if you walk the commons.
i will stake an even larger bet that you will hear at least half that if you were to watch all the rounds.
then there comes school
how many college professors have ever been fired for swearing?
and for that matter, how many high school teachers have been?
hell, how many grade school teachers have been?
even if a preschool teacher did, the worst that would happen is a shapr talk from the school principal. and that i can understand, they are five year olds.
as has been said, this site is geared towards high school students.
they are around this type of language all day long, five days a week, for 9 months, JUST in their hallways!
and anyways, if it offends them, they can always say something to the person they are talking to, or if they feel it is nessicary, leave.
its just not right to have to limit what we can say because you want to make others feel more at home.
it is not right for me to say "CBHS you dont make me comfortable with your nationalist ideologies, please leave or just dont talk about it anymore"
i know that because i had MULTIPLE threads deleted that specifically said this, i had MULTIPLE pm's from christia about me saying this.
what it all comes down to is
you are the ruler
and we are the ruled
we can leave if we want
but if we dont
we have to follow your rules
thats fine with me, but you exorcising your power in such a fashion as to OPPRESS me, i do not agree with.
---(and yes, limiting our expression through censoring our text IS oppression
Oppression is the negative outcome experienced by people targeted by the cruel exercise of power in a society or social group. It is particularly closely associated with nationalism and derived social systems, wherein identity is built by antagonism to the other. The term itself derives from the idea of being "weighted down."
The term oppression is primarily used to describe how a certain group is being kept down by unjust use of force, authority, or societal norms. When this is institutionalized formally or informally in a society, it is referred to as "systematic oppression". Oppression is most commonly felt and expressed by a widespread, if unconscious, assumption that a certain group of people are inferior. Oppression is rarely limited solely to government action. Individuals can be victims of oppression, and in this case have no group membership to share their burden of being ostracized.
we are being 'held down' in what we can say, and this is being done by a higher authority.~the essence of oppression
sorry if im actin like a commie
if i am
its cause i am one.
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