The God debate

[white_rabbit]

Sunt_eu_fericirea -- I'm gonna take a liberty here and ask a personal question, no you don't have to answer it....... You say you have no religious, but i'm curious, do you believe in God, a god, or any higher being??? and in my opinion is really sucks that religion was shoved down your throat like that.... in my opinion that is one of the worst things a parent can do

but i can agree with the points britain and coy have made, it is not right for teachers to say those things and do those things in a classroom, but as for students not participating in religious discussions, I believe that it is up to the student if they want to participate in those discussions with another student; but i don not agree that students should be forced to participate in religious discussions or activities if they do not wish to

in the band, we liked to pray as a group before performing and there were certain individuals who did not wish to participate. if someone tried to make them, i told them to just leave them alone since praying was not required as we are not Christian school and law says that any religious activity has to be directed by the students. in addition to this, our directors did not join the prayer circle so they did could not be accused of making us pray...

[Sunt_eu_fericirea]

White_Rabbit: I don't believe in religion. I think it's stupid. However, I do believe in a God, but I'm not certain how I feel about teachings in the bible etc. And hell. omg. I just can't fathom the thought of burning for eternity simply because you don't lead a certain life and believe certain things.

Exactly. It was wrong for the principal to announce that. It was also wrong for the teacher to throw ydoc out of class. However, I think ydoc could have handled the situation better. [Censored Word], go up to the principal and make a suggestion. You have to go to the root of the problem. If the principal hadn't have said "let us pray", you wouldn't have been visibly offended, and he wouldn't have bitched about his "beliefs" and whatnot and you wouldn't have been sent out.

Sometimes we forget tolerance. You know?

[BritainKennedy]

^That's not being tolerant, he should have made a scene and not been pushed around as such. He had a very blatantly obvious right to be offended and react as such.

[jkdnn0]

I just thought I'd put my stats here
lol

I'm agnostic...
I've been raised catholic and for all anyone knows, I am catholic
I don't believe in "God" in "Public Schools" but I know there is no way around it in most cases (especially bible belt south)
I do, however, love to hear my teachers and students talk about religion and act like it is a definite subject...it makes me laugh
also, I'm reading the crucible right now....which pisses me the [Censored Word] off...religious freaks! ha

[BritainKennedy]

^The crucible was hilarious...

Also, once again, there IS a way around it. It's a simple way too, stand up for yourself...

[jkdnn0]

Also, once again, there IS a way around it. It's a simple way too, stand up for yourself...

yea, tell me how that will work out?

[BritainKennedy]

Umm, you could possibly put an end to it, or at the very worst stand up for what you believe?

[jkdnn0]

Umm, you could possibly put an end to it, or at the very worst stand up for what you believe?

or you could get sent to the principal's office for being willfully disobedient...

[BritainKennedy]

And then you make it a legal issue.

[jkdnn0]

And then you make it a legal issue.

lol

[BritainKennedy]

Or at least threaten to, you'd be surprised how much leverage you gain. Haha.

[jkdnn0]

Or at least threaten to, you'd be surprised how much leverage you gain. Haha.

ha

[Sunt_eu_fericirea]

^That's not being tolerant, he should have made a scene and not been pushed around as such. He had a very blatantly obvious right to be offended and react as such.

Come one, don't be a [Censored Word] and scream I'M OFFENDED everytime someone mentions anything about God or other religions. This is what I mean by tolerance. A scene? I would have gone straight to the principal. Make a scene there. Defying the teacher wouldn't have made much of a difference, plus it would only give the school reason to punish you. The principal has authority, so make the scene there. Wouldn't you agree that this would be the more mature thing to do? Show the teacher that even though he was immature in bringing his personal beliefs into the classroom, ydoc is more mature by just taking it up to the principal. Again, who has the authority in public school? Principal.

Do you get what I'm saying? I'm sorry you were offended, but there are other means of dealing with it.

[Sunt_eu_fericirea]

Ohoh, and since there's a surplus of atheists on this site..
What is atheism? Lack of belief? Or? I've always wanted to know. The term often gets tossed around.

[BritainKennedy]

^That's not being tolerant, he should have made a scene and not been pushed around as such. He had a very blatantly obvious right to be offended and react as such.

Come one, don't be a [Censored Word] and scream I'M OFFENDED everytime someone mentions anything about God or other religions. This is what I mean by tolerance. A scene? I would have gone straight to the principal. Make a scene there. Defying the teacher wouldn't have made much of a difference, plus it would only give the school reason to punish you. The principal has authority, so make the scene there. Wouldn't you agree that this would be the more mature thing to do? Show the teacher that even though he was immature in bringing his personal beliefs into the classroom, ydoc is more mature by just taking it up to the principal. Again, who has the authority in public school? Principal.

Do you get what I'm saying? I'm sorry you were offended, but there are other means of dealing with it.

In this case it was the principal that did it..........